Comments on: Climategate scandal continues to unfold http://www.stumpreport.com/991132-climategate-scandal-continues-to-unfold/ Conservative commentary and national news Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:34:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: QuincyPhd http://www.stumpreport.com/991132-climategate-scandal-continues-to-unfold//comment-page-1#comment-6757 QuincyPhd Tue, 08 Mar 2011 00:13:34 +0000 http://www.stumpreport.com/?p=2744#comment-6757 Phil - no, mate - you're misunderstanding me. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'm saying that your source is dubious. And I said the Mail was kind of right-wing, but that that wasn't the point - the point was that they have no overt political agenda. And while I could back it up with documents I really shouldn't need to - it's a given fact. Would anybody disagree that Fox is right-wing? I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just saying that surely it's a given now and we no-longer have to prove it. Either way - my point was that their political leaning doesn't matter, it was more that they're interested in creating rumour and panic than actual news. In the UK, where I live, the Daily Mail is a byword for tabloid hysteria, much like the National Enquirer is a byword for alien-sex-celebrity news. Finally, I'm clearly not trolling. Clearly. To troll would be to call you a nutjob, swear and be incredibly partisan. I did none of those. Sure, I may have used sarcasm - but where I come from that's kind of a requirement (that was also sarcasm). All I was trying to do was give you a heads up that the source you're using is one of the least trustworthy newspapers in my country. And if you really really do want proof that they're untrustworthy - this is just one of hundreds of similar stories: http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/true-story-of-daily-mail-lies-guest.html It's a long read, but totally worth it. Phil – no, mate – you’re misunderstanding me. I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you, I’m saying that your source is dubious. And I said the Mail was kind of right-wing, but that that wasn’t the point – the point was that they have no overt political agenda.

And while I could back it up with documents I really shouldn’t need to – it’s a given fact. Would anybody disagree that Fox is right-wing? I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, just saying that surely it’s a given now and we no-longer have to prove it.

Either way – my point was that their political leaning doesn’t matter, it was more that they’re interested in creating rumour and panic than actual news. In the UK, where I live, the Daily Mail is a byword for tabloid hysteria, much like the National Enquirer is a byword for alien-sex-celebrity news.

Finally, I’m clearly not trolling. Clearly. To troll would be to call you a nutjob, swear and be incredibly partisan. I did none of those. Sure, I may have used sarcasm – but where I come from that’s kind of a requirement (that was also sarcasm).

All I was trying to do was give you a heads up that the source you’re using is one of the least trustworthy newspapers in my country. And if you really really do want proof that they’re untrustworthy – this is just one of hundreds of similar stories:

http://nosleeptilbrooklands.blogspot.com/2011/01/true-story-of-daily-mail-lies-guest.html

It’s a long read, but totally worth it.

]]> By: Phil Kammer http://www.stumpreport.com/991132-climategate-scandal-continues-to-unfold//comment-page-1#comment-6744 Phil Kammer Mon, 07 Mar 2011 01:47:17 +0000 http://www.stumpreport.com/?p=2744#comment-6744 Wonderful opinion but instead of writing so much next time just say I disagree. Furthermore, if you really want to be taken serious document some of your assertions: saying someone is right wined doesn't count. One more thing, saying your not trolling is a terribly way of hiding that your trolling..... Wonderful opinion but instead of writing so much next time just say I disagree. Furthermore, if you really want to be taken serious document some of your assertions: saying someone is right wined doesn’t count. One more thing, saying your not trolling is a terribly way of hiding that your trolling…..

]]> By: QuincyPhd http://www.stumpreport.com/991132-climategate-scandal-continues-to-unfold//comment-page-1#comment-6739 QuincyPhd Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:57:39 +0000 http://www.stumpreport.com/?p=2744#comment-6739 Bless you. You quoted the Daily Mail. I can understand how reading something on a newspaper website would make you think it's true, but it's not. It may contain elements of truth - the names, for example, might be spelled properly - but I guarantee you this newspaper is infamous for wildly distorting information, for leaping to conclusions that are not possible and, mainly, flat out lying to support it's agenda. Now, you may think I'm just trolling here - going on about agendas and the like, but the funny thing is that the Daily Mail doesn't really have an overt political agenda. It's right-wing, for sure, but not as catastrophically right-wing as, say, Fox News - the main agenda is to create mistrust, concern and anger because that's what sells papers. Put it this way - if everybody in the world had a lovely day; where the sun shone, there was no pain, no misery, and we all felt wonderful and harmonious for one fleeting 24 hours - the Daily Mail would report it as a forecast of pain and hatred the day after. So yes - nice try and, like I say, I'm sure some minor pieces in the article are accurate - but I'd be very wary of staking the reputation of your website on links to the Daily Mail. Bless you. You quoted the Daily Mail.

I can understand how reading something on a newspaper website would make you think it’s true, but it’s not. It may contain elements of truth – the names, for example, might be spelled properly – but I guarantee you this newspaper is infamous for wildly distorting information, for leaping to conclusions that are not possible and, mainly, flat out lying to support it’s agenda.

Now, you may think I’m just trolling here – going on about agendas and the like, but the funny thing is that the Daily Mail doesn’t really have an overt political agenda. It’s right-wing, for sure, but not as catastrophically right-wing as, say, Fox News – the main agenda is to create mistrust, concern and anger because that’s what sells papers.

Put it this way – if everybody in the world had a lovely day; where the sun shone, there was no pain, no misery, and we all felt wonderful and harmonious for one fleeting 24 hours – the Daily Mail would report it as a forecast of pain and hatred the day after.

So yes – nice try and, like I say, I’m sure some minor pieces in the article are accurate – but I’d be very wary of staking the reputation of your website on links to the Daily Mail.

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